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Why so much hate? by ElyssaJM Why so much hate? by ElyssaJM
The entire Christianity religion is based on love, so WHY THE HATE for Gays? I am ashamed of my fellow Christians who put down Homosexuality simply because it is different or odd. I have seen raly signs that say 'God hates fags' Well the 'Hate' part of that sign makes your argument already invalid idiot. God loves everyone for who they are, and I don't believe that he will send someone to Hell simply for loving someone. There is too much hate in this world, so why can't we allow people to love?
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Koodaa Featured By Owner Jun 19, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
It seems your blaming Christians altogether, I am Christian, I am gay, and I believe in gay rights, love is love. And you can't stop yourself from falling in love, it just happens. I sometimes wish I wasn't homosexual, just because I am Christian, but I can't stop myself from being that way.


So please, don't just say Christians hate gays, I took offense to it.
And sorry for a bother if I misunderstood anything.
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ElyssaJM Featured By Owner Jun 19, 2015  Student Digital Artist
I said "Fellow Christians" not all Christians, and even stated that Christianity was about love. This was meant to be a response to the "God hates fags" signs used by the West Bureau Baptist church, pointing out how hypocritical they are. This was no way an attack on Christians or Christianity. My girlfriend is a lesbian and a Christian, so I understand not all of you are hateful, but groups like the WBBC are very harmful and use God in a bad way to justify their hate for the LGBT community 
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Koodaa Featured By Owner Jun 19, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Ah, alright. Sorry, I had misunderstood.
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mandaIa Featured By Owner May 20, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
i love u so much for this seriously <333333
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ElyssaJM Featured By Owner May 27, 2015  Student Digital Artist
Thank you! While I am an atheist now, I still think this message stands for any christian
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NyuIa Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2015  Student Digital Artist
We need more people like you on this Earth. 
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Carter2144 Featured By Owner Dec 29, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
One more paradox...
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ElyssaJM Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2014  Student Digital Artist
I'm not sure what you mean
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Carter2144 Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Well, if god can hate, then he can sin (hate is a sin) so he's not perfect.
Plis, hating hate is paradox itself.
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AngelCasper Featured By Owner Jun 10, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
See I am Christian but I believe that nothing is wrong with being who you are   
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joshuarmour15 Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
While I personally believe that homosexuallity is wrong, hating them is a sin. Politically, the only reason I don't support gay marraige is because of the militant gays who are attempting to force their beliefs on people. I am not saying they all do, but its disgusting to read a story about a little boy or girl who was flashed at a gay rights rally. Christ said hate the sin, but love the sinner. Try to help them out of their problem. It isnt' because its different or odd, but because it is wrong.
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ElyssaJM Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2013  Student Digital Artist
I've never read a more ignorant comment. Of course nothing I can say will change your mind but I will state my rebuttal.
How is it okay for a priest to stand on the side of the street and preach and hand out bibles but it's not alright to have a gay rally? How is it okay for religious figures to try and "convert" us and basically rub their beliefs in our face? The whole point of supporting homosexuality is letting people be who they were born to be, so saying that they try to force people to be like them is completely arrogant. A child being around a gay rally or a gay man or woman won't suddenly make them gay. No one can force you to love the same or opposite gender, no matter how many gay rallies you attend. It is a hard realization for a lot of people, and saying it's contagious is so completely hurtful.
Get your head out of your butt and educate yourself.
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joshuarmour15 Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Let me state my counterrebuttal.
I didn't say it was wrong for people to have gay rallies. The problem I have is the child being flashed. I don't like people "Basically rubbing their beliefs in our face" either, and that is what I said. A child being at a gay rally won't make them gay, but a child being flashed is what I find appalling. My point is that the reason people are so militant towards gays is that they are finding so many people like you who are crucifying them for not accepting you. I didn't say its contagious, I said it is wrong for a child to see someone else's genetials. I support your "God hates hate". I made that clear. I stated that hating is evil. So, HOW AM I IGNORANT??????
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Maishul Featured By Owner Oct 11, 2012
The bible says otherwise.
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ElyssaJM Featured By Owner Oct 11, 2012  Student Digital Artist
Actually the NT mentions male prostitution and not committed relationships, an Paul might have spoke out against homosexuality but he also said that women should be silent and not take athority over a man.
I can hear your next argument, "The bible describes marriage between a man and woman,"
No, the bible describes marriage as between a man and multiple wives, a man and many concubines, and a man and his rape victim.
So "The bible says so," is not a valid argument.
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Maishul Featured By Owner Oct 11, 2012
Actually no, I was going to say the New Testament itself states that the Old Testament is still valid.
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ElyssaJM Featured By Owner Oct 11, 2012  Student Digital Artist
If you are a Christian then the NT is valid so by saying its not is very unchristian.

And the OT doesn't, however it does say that it is sinful to eat shellfish and prork and wear clothing with different fabrics woven into it. :shrug: so even if it did speak out against homosexuality, what do we just decide what values from the OT to follow and what not to?
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Maishul Featured By Owner Oct 11, 2012
I'm not ruling out NT, I'm just saying that it states old testamate laws still apply. And since these laws are appearantly "god's words", then obviously god must love hate and killing.
I am not Christian, I will never follow any religion.
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ElyssaJM Featured By Owner Oct 11, 2012  Student Digital Artist
Then what was the point of this conversation?
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Maishul Featured By Owner Oct 11, 2012
Well I was just commenting on the picture itself...My point is the bible itself contradicts this, it encourages hate and death on pretty much everyone.
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Urasiade Featured By Owner Aug 18, 2012
thank you <3
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Barricade9-1-1 Featured By Owner Jun 24, 2012  Hobbyist Artist
why don't they just leave them alone?
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Lost-Concept Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
That's the truth.

Amen to that!
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SoulSilverHeartGold Featured By Owner Jun 4, 2012  Student Digital Artist
I'm Christian and I believe homosexuality is a sin, but that doesn't mean that I hate gay/lesbian/bisexual/transgender people. I disagree with their lifestyle choices, but I disagree with a lot of lifestyle choices, like smoking, drinking, even less harmful things like lying. But they usually disagree with mine, and so I agree to disagree.

I believe that Christ's religion is one of love. And who am I to judge them anyway? I'm not perfect either.

Besides, saying that "someone hates you" for something, isn't going to you to change. In fact, it usually inspires the opposite.

Anyway, just saying how I feel.
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Carter2144 Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
See, you're the reason I'm not a christian!
Some (SOME) christians just LOVE to live in their little ignorant bubble and don't want to hear any good argument against THEIR lifestyle.
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UmadeMeink Featured By Owner May 27, 2012
eh does...
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JorgeMota Featured By Owner May 22, 2012
well said
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RedDeath-OG Featured By Owner May 21, 2012
so true!
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AdrianosArt Featured By Owner May 21, 2012  Student Digital Artist
I have been trying to tell this to EVERYONE. They just seem to shut down when I make this argument. Whatever happened to the loving, open-minded Christians?
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ElyssaJM Featured By Owner May 21, 2012  Student Digital Artist
Exactly
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Zereverefano Featured By Owner May 21, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
something tells me you live near Topeka, right?

And what's with the one 'mad'. Seriously, WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU?!?!?
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ElyssaJM Featured By Owner May 21, 2012  Student Digital Artist
I don't know where Topeka is... And excuse me?
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Zereverefano Featured By Owner May 22, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Kansas.
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ElyssaJM Featured By Owner May 28, 2012  Student Digital Artist
Okay whatever, but what is with the foul language??
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wolfiethefurry Featured By Owner May 21, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Yes yes yes. This should be a stamp! >w<
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ElyssaJM Featured By Owner May 21, 2012  Student Digital Artist
I should make it a stamp!
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wolfiethefurry Featured By Owner May 21, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I'd definitely use it! :meow:
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Silvuri Featured By Owner May 21, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I fully agree!
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ElyssaJM Featured By Owner May 21, 2012  Student Digital Artist
=D
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GatitaZ Featured By Owner May 21, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Exactly.
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ElyssaJM Featured By Owner May 21, 2012  Student Digital Artist
=D
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GatitaZ Featured By Owner May 21, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
:eager:
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Allison-of-the-opera Featured By Owner May 21, 2012  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
<3 i agree a hundered percent. one boy was banned from my church this month for being gay and i was so mad that i exchanged a few... harsh words with my pastor and kinda might have to pray a bit for... er, cussing out a man of god in church. love is love and anyone who doesnt support love is someone not worth knowing in my opinion.
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ElyssaJM Featured By Owner May 21, 2012  Student Digital Artist
Wow he was banned! Let me slap that pastor (Forgive me father for my act of violence against stupidity) wow...
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Allison-of-the-opera Featured By Owner May 21, 2012  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
my church is very... conservative. after i get confirmed my mom is pulling me out and were starting fresh at a new church. its so lame, isnt it? i know this kid personally and hes the sweetest kid ever! and if that wasnt enough, the pastor came forward asd aked him if he would let the pastor 'cleanse him of the demon' i was lucky i wasnt there for that one... there was a huge backlash at him.
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Eriklover12345 Featured By Owner May 21, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
I may not be Christian but Love is Love in my religion love is a big thing. In many religiens love is a big thing. So ya I agree and if you don't THEN KEEP TO YOUR SELF
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MandiPope Featured By Owner May 21, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
PS - I wish I could fave this, like, a thousand times, but that wouldn't even come close to expressing how much I love this piece and you.

Mandi
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ElyssaJM Featured By Owner May 21, 2012  Student Digital Artist
Thank you =3 I am glad you love it so much! And you love me? :iconawwwplz: :huggle: well I love you too! I feel so loved hehe
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MandiPope Featured By Owner May 21, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thank you for your support for the "different" ones like me, my Friend, and supporting my rights to love my woman or anyone else on this floating rock we call earth.

My favorite passage from the Bible is this; GOD IS LOVE. And that's it. It does not say "God is love between man and woman" or anything else. Just love. Period. Love for your parents, your friends, your lover, yourself... Pure, unrestricted, unburdened LOVE.

I love you. I love you for your views, your art, your support and your palpable friendship you so graciously have blessed me with, albeit a short time. Please, if you never believe another word that comes out of my mouth, believe these words; I LOVE YOU.

Mandi
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